Millwall 0 - Charlton Athletic 0.
You may even find yourself having to visit them, if only to remind yourself what it is about them you find so repellent.
They of course think of you as soft, well spoken nerds, only concerned with the minute details of life.
You look down on them for still having that pile of dog crap on the living room carpet, 3 weeks after it was dropped.
On a totally unrelated subject, yesterday Charlton went to Millwall.
Now Millwall have a reputation for being pricks but yesterday, before kick off at least, they seemed to be making the right noises and had decided to call the game Jimmy's Day.
Millwall had their biggest crowd for a generation, (remember families have a quick turn around in those parts), and there was barely a gap to be seen at the Tool Box beyond the areas forcibly kept empty.
Before the game started, I noticed there was something 'different' about the Charlton support.
Nobody seemed even remotely intimidated by the feral locals.
When they sang "No one Likes Us" we joined in, pointing out exactly why.
When they did their "Miiiiiiiiillllll" chant, we joined in, adding Joey Deacon style hand movements.
Charlton are a family club.
We pride ourselves on having women and children as part of our support, as well as welcoming new comers from everywhere.
Yesterday, there was barely a woman to be seen near me and certainly no children.
Around 3,500 mostly blokes, all intent on giving it back.
This Charlton crowd were not going to be a push over.
The teams came out and I realised i was in the thick of it when a few seats away a red smoke bomb went off.
The taste stayed with me for a while.
I'm not a fan of smoke bombs but I can't deny it looked absolutely magnificent.
Yes, it's childish and dangerous and copying the Italians, (not to mention those from Norwood ) but for 40 seconds or so, it was the focus of the entire ground.
The Millwall fans were livid.
The game itself is easy to summarise.
Millwall, as the home team and on an unbeaten run were in command for long periods.
Charlton, without the suspended Morrison and injured Fuller had set themselves up to 'not lose'.
Many would say Charlton parked the bus and it wouldn't be too far from the truth.
The Charlton performance was all about solid defending and this was done in spades.
Charlton rarely threatened the Millwall goal.
Millwall were by far the better team yet ended it with just a point.
A point away from home is never a bad result and when our previous diabolical performance at the same venue is added into the mix, it felt like a win.
We could have nicked it of course with a couple of breakaways but they came to nothing.
With around 8,000 day trippers added to the regular Millwall support they had to learn quickly what to shout.
They seem to have decided upon "Handball!" which was bellowed with gusto whenever the ball went off the deck, near a Charlton player.
Their players seemed to have a problem with gravity too.
When the game ended, it felt good.
We hadn't crumbled and could leave with our heads held high.
A few more coloured smoke bombs were launched at the pitch which seemed to wind up the Danny Dyer wannabes to our left.
We had green laser pointers shone in our eyes, bottles and coins thrown at us as well as a few seats.
Needless to say, there were missiles returned and for a while it got a bit lively.
Last time we went to Millwall, we were penned in after the game.
This time there was no such event.
We came outside the ground, into the darkness with the Charlton support bellowing "We're the Red and White Army".
This was no time for shrinking violets.
As the two sets of supporters converged, I bumped into Jim and we hastily decided upon a drink.
We snuck away from the main body of Charlton support, heading directly into the mass of Millwall.
We kept our eyes down as we went by a self styled Millwall 'general' commanding their support to "Stick together" and seek out the Charlton.
He could barely focus he was so full of anger.
Silence from us as we walked through the hundreds of Neanderthals, all hopping mad that Charlton had come to their patch and forgotten to break down and cry.
Eventually, we jumped on a bus on Old Kent Road, heading for a drink near London Bridge.
Some pints of Doombar, Sambuca, a telling off from the bar staff for singing loudly and a good laugh ended the evening in time to fall asleep in front of Match of The Day.
An old school football day.
I wouldn't want it every week but it was fun yesterday.
Millwall were on top for most of the game but didn't really make Hamer work too hard.
This was due to the immense defending from our team, especially Solly and Cort.
Both were stars for me, though I also appreciated hearing about defender Michael Morrison being in with the Charlton support along with John Sullivan.
Good work fellers.